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life&#039s like thi — Tue, 02 Jun 2009 15:45:30 -0000

Abuse

Law existed to protect people. Law created to make people feel safe. But somehow, it worked the other way around in Indonesia. Law was used to shackle people, to keep people on the leash and to shut down the voice of freedom. The story so far This was ...

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c. patriawn — Thu, 08 May 2008 20:15:45 -0000

Boy,

Dari sudut antropolog, soal "xenophobuia , tribalism" itu sudah ada sejak jaman dahulu. Cuman memang ada bedanya antara pulau.

Sumber asalnya adalah "our Feudal Heritage".

Ada di buku2 sejarah Indonesia yang ditulis Bung Hatta dan Sjahrir.

Jadi tulisan elu itu betul, kita ini hasil thesis,antithesis dan sinkretis pemikiran lama saja...

Kamsia,

Karloz

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dian ina — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 03:37:15 -0000

@Trinie:

Vote.

Yeah, I think Avi will be a better Menkominfo than our present one.

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avianto — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:46:07 -0000

kangbayu: Let us hope we will move toward a better future because unfortunately the situation right now is not so conducive for us to express our own opinion.

Trinie & Nindya: Hahaha, thanks for the support but I think we have much greater people than me right now to hold such a powerful responsibility.

MarkO: Remind me of an era where safety and stability were the reason for oppressing people. Are we going to that direction again? Hope not.

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MarkO — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 10:02:44 -0000

a very nice post indeed. i guess what our government wants to do is to play safe. remember, 2009 is the time for general election (ehm, more like a conspiracy theory).

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Nindya — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 07:47:17 -0000

--abis baca komennya Trinie di atas--

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!

SETUJUUUU!! VOTE FOR BOY AVIANTO AS NEXT MINISTER OF DEPKOMINFOOO!!!! XD XD

Menterinya jadi funky entar :D

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Trinie — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 18:56:36 -0000

VOTE BOY FOR THE NEXT MINISTRY OF DEPKOMINFO!!!

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kangbayu — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:27:25 -0000

This is why UU ITE thinks (in one way or another) that blogging is dangerous, cause we speaks our mind!

I think it&#039s clear now where we&#039ll be heading toward. Let&#039s strike back! Elegantly of course!

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avianto — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:17:25 -0000

Rani: Thanks but I think you should write about it too. You&#039ll be back here soon, right? I want to know how you&#039ll deal with this.

Ieksa: That&#039s what scared me the most and since most Indonesian are [amnesiac] (http://journal.avianto.com/archives/2008/01/amnesiac.html "My entry about amnesiac"), this thing could happened again and again.

Ciels: Well, it is sad. Of course we all want to support our country but with this event, most of us are not so sure anymore.

colson: Thank you for the encouraging comment and I hope the government had the same level of state of mind as the rest of brilliant commenters here. PS: I read the countered movie is also looks like a slide show but I never watched it, it didn&#039t hit my curiosity nerve.

Pena Budaya: Thank you. We are sharing the same suspicion. Let&#039s hope it&#039s not true because if it&#039s true then we are in the deep trouble.

Anna: Thank you for reading my writing. The xenophobia and tribalism are my favorite subject to brought up since those are the facts but most people denied it.

Endy: Thanks for the compliment. Let&#039s hope they will not go any lower. More people will suffer if they do that.

Mac: Thank you for the link but that solution will only solve the problem partially. The problem is on the government&#039s head and if they are not realizing that even those proxy links or server will get banned eventually.

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Pena Budaya — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:31:38 -0000

A very fine writing. Congrats.

This is a backward public policy (related to mass media) ever made after Harmoko's era.

I guess this policy is related to the next election. Hidden campaign. Make sure that we will not choose the same government.

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Mac — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:19:24 -0000

Guys,

use this: http://www.your-freedom.net

enjoy,

mac

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Endy — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:17:59 -0000

Fantastic post, thank you for writing that :-D I hope the "Chief Compiler" and "Commander in Chief" read your blog, definitely my read of the year :-D

How much low can they go in terms of idea. It&#039s like they are too desperate to act something, probably those guys in FPI are scaring them shitless.

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Anna E. — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 12:13:26 -0000

Great writings!!

Stupid folks, aren&#039t they? =p I also address this issue in my blog, but you happen to include xenophobia and tribalism as well, which is very interesting! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

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colson — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 11:12:27 -0000

Marvelous entry. And in my opinion an utterly effective one too. Effective too anyone in his right mind, I mean. Especially because the wit and irony you use are superior weapons. It&#039s brave also, because you can not trust a government that treats citizens as under aged children.

Well, the Indonesian government may indeed have a low self esteem, fortunately quite a number of Indonesian nationals are sharp, cool, witty and self confident. Congratulations on that state of mind.

(PS: The movie you refer too, to me seems to be more of a slide show.)

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Ciels — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:13:53 -0000

Mas boy, I&#039ve just realized that they block MP also today. God, I really want to support my own country, but I don&#039t know how I could do it if they keep doing stupid things like this.

I agree, they are narrow minded, so narrow they can&#039t even protect their peoples&#039 rights, so shallow that they don&#039t have the brains to counter a certain movie with another movie.

I&#039m out of words, I spend half of the morning ranting and raving with my friends, and spilled my guts in my blog. Still not satisfied though, want to knock something on some certain people&#039s head, or operate their brain..... AGGGGHHHHHHH....Bethe!!!!

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leksa — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 10:04:07 -0000

Like i said in other blog,..

its just not about the way how to control the Movie. But its seem like how the gov try to control the freedom of speech, or the freedom opinion.

i could not imagine, if gov success to start from this case (Fitna),.. and later maybe, all content that they think could disturb the plitic power.

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Rani — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 08:14:30 -0000

good one boy, i don&#039t need to write about it anymore, yours is great post.

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avianto — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:58:57 -0000

First of all, thank you for all the comments, all of you are smart and broad-minded. I don&#039t even have to filter your comments =P sarcasm detected

Jen: About Roy Suryo. That&#039s the reality of the game. Brain and attitude weren&#039t matter, sensational was the juice for media. About the "self-criticism" issue, it&#039s just a proven fact about Indonesian racism/tribalism. Sad, isn&#039t it?

feha: Clear enough for all of you smart people but not clear enough for the government ;).

Jakartass: Thank you too. Guerilla warfare will happened sooner or later if this matter keep on going like this. About Roy Suryo, there was a website and wiki about his action a couple of years ago - but then the author decided it was not worth of the author&#039s time to continue monitoring a person who absolutely have no clue about what he was talking about. Not to mention the abuse of the wiki system by a certain someone who keep deleting all of the wiki post. Laughing stock indeed but yet the government was angry being a laughing stock and reacted by creating more jokes. Not just sad, it&#039s pathetic.

ben: Of course we all hope this will not get any worse. But considering next year election and the ability of the Internet to build opinion and action - I am afraid that we will see more of this fiasco. As I mentioned above, the government are looking for a way to control what kind of information should be delivered to the people. The government think they should decide which information is the best for the people according to their agenda. Compiling or even compressing the information. Scared yet? I know I did.

Koko: We did do something. We met with the Minister, weren&#039t we? We said our concern. We said our opinion. But of course that&#039s all we could do as a citizen. What else? Started a revolution? If this thing going on then maybe it will happened anyway. Your friend should be glad this fiasco didn&#039t affect him, but there were others whose affected so much by this fiasco, have you consider that? Indonesian are not just you and your friends, right? Is it something big? I don&#039t know but I am afraid that this will be a rolling snowball.

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Koko — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:47:54 -0000

But something need to be done from us as citizen.

Yes, we know that a bunch of old people in the government will keep a narrow minded mind? But what can we as a broader minded, non xenophobic citizen could do?

As far as i&#039m concern, we didn&#039t do anything except rants, because it&#039s still not BIG enough. If blogger.com or wordpress.com is banned that&#039s a whole new level.

My friend said, "My internet life isn&#039t really affected by this whole banned thing, because i didn&#039t see youtube (slow bandwidth), or join myspace."

Is it a start of something BIG? or it&#039s just because SBY is angry someone is sleeping during his talk?

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ben — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 06:26:15 -0000

I just heard about the blocking of some major websites happening in Indo and it was a sad moment really. I started telling all my friends about this matter and of course, negative comments were all I got. There should be a better way to "fix" the problem rather than to block the entire website because it&#039s stupid.

I know that Indonesia has many great individual that could team up and try to come up with a solution, as you mentioned above, but guess the minister took the highway to just block the sites (and I heard from some random source that it cost A LOT to just create this regulation. Can&#039t you use it for something better like poverty?).

Anyway, who am I to talk about this? Just a student outside the country that everyday hoping that Indonesia could get better to become a place to live but guess that won&#039t be happening. It&#039s just becoming dumber and dumber (at least the government side).

Appreciate your effort for meeting with the minister and try to save the community! And it&#039s a great blog you posted here.

Hope things will go well and looking forward to see where this situation would lead us.

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Jakartass — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 05:05:04 -0000

An excellent post, Avi for which many thanks.

Maybe there is a need for some guerrilla warfare.

I don&#039t actually want to see the film, but now so much fuss has been generated by a bigot and ignorant know-it-all, can we publish a wiki-page about Roy Suryo detailing all the bad things we can find out about him? He&#039s obviously a pal of SBY whispering his own private agenda. Note that he was paid $10,000 (!?!) to set up the Presidential website, which is much too much of a mish-mash.

As it is, and as pointed out here, in over-reacting to one man&#039s bigotry, Indonesia is becoming even more of a laughing stock internationally.

Sad really.

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feha — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 04:39:34 -0000

nice post Boy.....

you described it clearly :D

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Jen — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:59:23 -0000

Whenever I tried to bring up the issue "how foreigners see Indonesians," then some people started pointing at my ethnicity, which is Chinese-Indonesian. I was not somebody who should bring up the issue of "self-criticism" because I&#039m not an "insider" of Indonesia.

My point was exactly like yours. To be taken seriously, we should play at other countries&#039 level. Professionally and gracefully.

That hurts but then I realize how true it was. I&#039m Indonesian, Chinese, and American. And something greater. :)

I took it with a grain of salt. Thanks for listening.

PS. People like Roy Suryo have been receiving accolades, huh? Funny.

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ultratupai — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:46:39 -0000

Yes, very nice piece of writing. Thanks for saying all those things you said.

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Jen — Tue, 08 Apr 2008 23:23:44 -0000

Pemerintah = commander, nice. :)