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<rss xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom" version="2.0"><channel><title>avianto's journal - Latest Comments in It is 2000 all over again</title><link>http://avianto.disqus.com/</link><description></description><atom:link href="https://avianto.disqus.com/it_is_2000_all_over_again/latest.rss" rel="self"></atom:link><language>en</language><lastBuildDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 02:58:54 -0000</lastBuildDate><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848764</link><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Why Standards?&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;I&amp;amp;#8217d been chatting with one of my favorite blogger &amp;amp;#038 designer, Boy Avianto. I was asking why website or weblog has to use web standards? And what are the advantages? He told me that when our site is using standards, it is the same as the car...&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">indihiang</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 09 Aug 2005 02:58:54 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848758</link><description>&lt;p&gt;eh, jangan salah ada kok peserta yang pake web standard.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">ephi</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 05:59:45 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848765</link><description>&lt;p&gt;lapor.. g udah buka link bubu itu.. tapi kenapa namanya bubu yak? kesannya seperti bubu gaga.. film kartun.. (hehehe becanda..;))&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;maap ya pak.. saya emang gatek abis.. so many thing to catch up.. and i&amp;amp;#039m working on it.. at least.. g dah punya gambaran juga.. hehehe.. ;B&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">rika</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 07:21:58 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848761</link><description>&lt;p&gt;lapor.. g udah buka link bubu itu.. tapi kenapa namanya bubu yak? kesannya seperti bubu gaga.. film kartun.. (hehehe becanda..;))&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;maap ya pak.. saya emang gatek abis.. so many thing to catch up.. and i&amp;amp;#039m working on it.. at least.. g dah punya gambaran juga.. hehehe.. ;B&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">rika</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 07:21:58 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848759</link><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;an&lt;/strong&gt;: Aturan yang ada udah cukup ketat loh dan itu aja masih diprotesin peserta.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Wah an, kalo loe bilang "sampe kapan juga gak dapet kalo kesadaran sih.", gue malah jadi takut... Sebegitu parahnya kah bangsa indonesia sehingga untuk &amp;amp;#039sadar&amp;amp;#039 itu sulit sekali? Kalau iya, turut berduka cita.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">avianto</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 03:43:54 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848760</link><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;an&lt;/strong&gt;: Aturan yang ada udah cukup ketat loh dan itu aja masih diprotesin peserta.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Wah an, kalo loe bilang "sampe kapan juga gak dapet kalo kesadaran sih.", gue malah jadi takut... Sebegitu parahnya kah bangsa indonesia sehingga untuk &amp;amp;#039sadar&amp;amp;#039 itu sulit sekali? Kalau iya, turut berduka cita.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">avianto</dc:creator><pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2005 03:43:54 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848752</link><description>&lt;p&gt;secara lo mengenal penyelenggaranya &lt;em&gt;ehm, sepertinya ada juri tahun lalu ya.. ehm...&lt;/em&gt;, kenapa gak bikin rules ketat tentang web standard.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;kita sih gak akan bener2 belajar kalo rulesnya aja gak disosialisasi. kelemahan indonesia dr dulu ya itu. ngotot sama perubahan, tapi gak ada sosialisasi tentang perubahan itu. nunggu kesadaraaaaann aja terus.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;sampe kapan juga gak dapet kalo kesadaran sih.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;that&amp;amp;#039s my 2000 perak.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">an</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:56:57 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848749</link><description>&lt;p&gt;secara lo mengenal penyelenggaranya &lt;em&gt;ehm, sepertinya ada juri tahun lalu ya.. ehm...&lt;/em&gt;, kenapa gak bikin rules ketat tentang web standard.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;kita sih gak akan bener2 belajar kalo rulesnya aja gak disosialisasi. kelemahan indonesia dr dulu ya itu. ngotot sama perubahan, tapi gak ada sosialisasi tentang perubahan itu. nunggu kesadaraaaaann aja terus.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;sampe kapan juga gak dapet kalo kesadaran sih.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;that&amp;amp;#039s my 2000 perak.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">an</dc:creator><pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:56:57 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848750</link><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;adam&lt;/strong&gt;: too long. udah kelamaan&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Jauhari&lt;/strong&gt;: lambat dan tidak mau belajar&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;godote&lt;/strong&gt;: it&amp;amp;#039s weird indeed&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;priyadi&lt;/strong&gt;: some people need award to prove their existence&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;dicky&lt;/strong&gt;: evangelisting itu banyak suka dukanya ;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;rika&lt;/strong&gt;: bubu award kan ada linknya tuh. dan bukan cuma penggemar kok, tapi profesi =D&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;d&lt;/strong&gt;: thanks! online dong!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;chie&lt;/strong&gt;: nothing is wrong actually. it&amp;amp;#039s just the way it is... too bad? maybe, but it&amp;amp;#039s not wrong.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">avianto</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:41:14 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848739</link><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;adam&lt;/strong&gt;: too long. udah kelamaan&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Jauhari&lt;/strong&gt;: lambat dan tidak mau belajar&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;godote&lt;/strong&gt;: it&amp;amp;#039s weird indeed&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;priyadi&lt;/strong&gt;: some people need award to prove their existence&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;dicky&lt;/strong&gt;: evangelisting itu banyak suka dukanya ;)&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;rika&lt;/strong&gt;: bubu award kan ada linknya tuh. dan bukan cuma penggemar kok, tapi profesi =D&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;d&lt;/strong&gt;: thanks! online dong!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;chie&lt;/strong&gt;: nothing is wrong actually. it&amp;amp;#039s just the way it is... too bad? maybe, but it&amp;amp;#039s not wrong.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">avianto</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:41:14 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848735</link><description>&lt;p&gt;hemm..i have just known about your web and i really appreciate it. you are good designer. unfortunately, indonesia memang selalu ketinggalan, bukan? so, where is the wrong? the people or the infrastructure? there are so many unbalanced systems in indonesia,right?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">-cHie-</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:57:05 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848736</link><description>&lt;p&gt;hemm..i have just known about your web and i really appreciate it. you are good designer. unfortunately, indonesia memang selalu ketinggalan, bukan? so, where is the wrong? the people or the infrastructure? there are so many unbalanced systems in indonesia,right?&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">-cHie-</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:57:05 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848732</link><description>&lt;p&gt;hey vi, a BIG congratulation for your graduation yah!!! :) sorry telat banget. so when are you planning to come home? or are you gonna work in germany for a while? udah lama banget nih kita gak ngobrol. kangen juga!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">d</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:59:43 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848733</link><description>&lt;p&gt;hey vi, a BIG congratulation for your graduation yah!!! :) sorry telat banget. so when are you planning to come home? or are you gonna work in germany for a while? udah lama banget nih kita gak ngobrol. kangen juga!&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">d</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 07:59:43 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848746</link><description>&lt;p&gt;wakakak..&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;g ngarti sama sekali&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;not a single word.. cuma bisa nangkep samar-samar kalo mr. avianto penggemar www yg prihatin dengan kondisi www di indonesia.. bener nggak?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;trus.. bubu award apaan sih?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(jangan marah ya.. maklum gatek abis ;))&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">rika</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 06:30:31 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848742</link><description>&lt;p&gt;wakakak..&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;g ngarti sama sekali&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;not a single word.. cuma bisa nangkep samar-samar kalo mr. avianto penggemar www yg prihatin dengan kondisi www di indonesia.. bener nggak?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;trus.. bubu award apaan sih?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;(jangan marah ya.. maklum gatek abis ;))&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">rika</dc:creator><pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2005 06:30:31 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848744</link><description>&lt;p&gt;tergoda untuk melihat validaasi &lt;a href="http://www.bubuawards.net/web/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://www.bubuawards.net/web/"&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.bubuawards.net/web/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank" title="http://www.bubuawards.net/web/"&gt;http://www.bubuawards.net/web/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;jadi evangelist itu hal bagus..ada kok orang berpikiran maju yang pada akhirnya mau mengadopsi standar :) lebih bagus lagi kalau orang seperti ini seperti virus, juga ikut jadi evangelis..jadi ilmunya ga disimpen sendiri..tapi dibagi ke orang-orang yang sulit berubah...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;valid code --kepuasanan atau forward compatibility?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;cheers :)&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">hanindyo</dc:creator><pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2005 07:32:32 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848738</link><description>&lt;p&gt;kalo gua liat sih...  the ones with crappy looks, bad navigation, horrible standard compliance, etc, are trying very hard to get the awards.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;meanwhile, the better web sites out there won&amp;amp;#039t bother with awards :)&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Priyadi</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 15:07:47 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848745</link><description>&lt;p&gt;huhuhu, nasip nasip&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;10yr vi im 11yr dan masih suka tercengang melihat fenomena keanehan ini.&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">godote</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 14:22:39 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848741</link><description>&lt;p&gt;kalau lambat sih ndak... cuma agak &lt;strong&gt;gimana&lt;/strong&gt; gitu :)&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">Jauhari</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 10:00:54 -0000</pubDate></item><item><title>Re: It is 2000 all over again</title><link>https://journal.avianto.com/2005/07/it-is-2000-all-over-again/#comment-3594848731</link><description>&lt;p&gt;semua itu butuh proses kan om... tapi proses di indonesia lambat.. hehehe...&lt;/p&gt;</description><dc:creator xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/">adam</dc:creator><pubDate>Fri, 08 Jul 2005 09:24:49 -0000</pubDate></item></channel></rss>